USA & Redefreiheit

http://www.spiegel.de/unispiegel/st...,339775,00.html

interessanter artikel.

es hat mich wirlich ueberrascht dass ein amerikaner auch zu so einem entschluss kommen kann.
ich glaub es gibt doch noch hoffnung fuer diese welt

seine ausdrucksweise wuerde ich jedoch nicht gerade befuerworten.

über das "wie" kann man streiten, aber über das "was" nicht.
er hat einfach die wahrheit gesagt und "."

es ist auch unser fehler der europäer die amis alle in einen topf zu werfen ! es sind nicht alle gleich ... die ost und westküste ist normal ... nur das was im landesinneren ist ist ne katastrophe !

Zitat von HaBa

Du wirfst gerade alle aus dem Landesinneren in einen Topf ..

hoppla ... stimmt ! naja ich probiers immer wieder aber werde mich anscheinend nie ändern

*ahem* I do hope you'll pardon my English here, but my German is rather limited. I've been searching high and low for a forum I can read a fair international perspective on politics (and actually life in general) that isn't presented by the foreign media. I enjoy traveling and speak several different languages, but I fear German is not one of them at this point. I'll make a point to change that in the near future.

I'm unsure if I'm welcome here, but this is the internet, and to just browse .com and .co.uk sites are rather boring. This pose an interesting problem because most of the other perspectives on life are in languages different from my own. Regardless, I hope you guys will let me read this forum and occasionally comment on your thoughts... Let me know if you'd rather not have me here.

And please do not feel compelled to respond to me in English... Google's translator works just fine, and for those few occurrances that I don't know what you're saying, I can ask.

(Short bio: I'm dual national American and Canadian, live mostly in New Hampshire and Quebec, and am a student in a college doing a double degree in math and languages.)



Back to this discussion at hand... I will not hesitate to hide my contempt for this particular professor. Everyone has the right to free speech, but not everyone has the right to be heard. I disagree with what he is saying and I would definitely want him to resign if he was at my university. He has gone just a little too far.

Interestingly enough, this is quite often called clamping down on dissent by the left (Democrats, Kerry supporters) in this country. They like to say that this is bad because it restricts free speech. Obviously, I disagree with them for the reasons previously mentioned, however, they miss one important question.

In a lot of Europe it is illegal to sell and own Nazi artifacts. It is also illegal to recruit for a Nazi party. Is this not worse than firing this professor?

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the left (Democrats, Kerry supporters)

the democrats are center, and the republicans right-wing.
there exists no "left" in the us.

do you share this european perspective?



i partly agree with prof. churchill's perspective, and compared to what u.s. politicians and journalists say (eg. on tv) i see absolutely no reason why this man should resign...

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Well Dave, I consider the Democrats to be far left, and Republicans to be left-center. I'm neither. I'm with the Republicans economically, and mostly with the Democrats socially. I do not consider someone center who believes in redistribution of wealth. That is far, far left. Since so many Republicans also believe in social security (government pension plan) and medicare (government health care) and medicaid (government health care for poor people), I consider them at most in the center somewhere.

Well body...
My English is poor... Non Native Speaker...

1st of all... Why should be the Republicans good economics...
Giving big companies big gains isnt good for economics, because econmic=cash flow...->if the big companies collect the money... it cant be use to flow in the cylce...
giving the people money is good... so they can spend it... and companies need to produce things and for this they need workers...so the production increases...

in austria we got the same problem... we got the ÖVP(many industrialists are member of them) ... they decrease taxes for big companies... and the companies keep their gains...

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If you agree with Prof. Churchill's perspective, do you support making Nazi parties illegal? Isn't this also crushing down on the opposition?


Far, far better than my German.

well at your NAZI argument...
in the USA the communist party ist practical forbidden...

and freedom of opinion is limited in one thing: opinions which endanger the base consensus(opinions like gas and burn all jews or make a dictatorship arent acceptable/tolerable for democracy)

cya....
PS: arent u canadian?

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If you agree with Prof. Churchill's perspective, do you support making Nazi parties illegal? Isn't this also crushing down on the opposition?

(attention: worse english ) the basic thought behind the "original" Nazi party was to "clean" the human race by killing million of people.

do you think it's a good idea to allow such a party?


edit: now i finished reading the article... i fully agree with Ward Churchill, because America is allways fighting against problems in place of causes.